AradhanaD at the Leftist Looney Lunchbox has an interesting and thought-provoking post on the relationship between cuisine authenticity and cultural and economic power. It was inspired by a discussion on Pandagon that generally went against a focus on authenticity in food as problematic for various reasons. Aradhana says:
So, in this post I'm going to go out on a limb to make a case "for" valuing the 'authenticity' of 'ethnic cuisine' and hopefully get you to 'racialize the everyday'. In my search for a meaningful debate about the 'authenticity' of food - I have yet to come across an entry that isn't about 'cultural abstractism', so I am getting my structural-materialist thoughts together to move away from that 'abstract' realm.
And further:
The main question I have to ask is: "Who are these people that are afraid of 'experimenting'? Are they men, women, white, majority? In which case, is their fear of 'experimenting' of any consequence? And if not, at what expense?" And this is how it starts and this is where even I think my 'leftist looneyism' is taking a leap and running with it. So these are just my ideas - I do encourage debate, so please feel free to share your ideas about this if you want.
And once she introduces the debate like this, she goes onto list a number of points and analyze a number of anecdotes about how food experimentation and the ability to avoid culturally authentic processes and ingredients may itself by connected to privilege and oppression.
Included is a very amusing YouTube video which you should all go and watch. I won't post it here so that you have to actually click through to see it. I promise you, it's hilarious. Well, it's hilarious to this desi dude. Well, maybe it's kind of culturally specific. But it's funny. Honest.
Anyway, she makes some very good points among which is the idea that the ability to avoid authenticity in foreign food is partly related to the ability to avoid minority culture in general. "Eat the curry - don't live the the curry-maker," is what she says is the ethos.
I have to make a couple of points in defence of non-authenticity (that might have been made on the Pandagon thread that is too old and stale and long for me to read in detail now). A lot of the non-authenticity, I do believe, does make it down to the Oppressed Classes. Yes, it makes it down in the form of pre-processed industrial food---which, I might add, is not wholly without merits---but there are people in this world who wouldn't imagine that there are other tastes without the opportunity to "bastardize" cuisine.
Lastly, I have to vehemently disagree with her about Ottawa vs. Toronto restaurants. I am an Ottawa boy, but I visit Toronto frequently, and when I am in Toronto, I eat at restaurants much more frequently than I would in Ottawa---because I am there to refresh contacts with a large number of friends and family members. And I have to say that while there is huge selection in Toronto, there is a much much lower signal-to-noise ratio than in Ottawa, so to speak. That is, you might have a whole block of Chinese restaurants on in Toronto, but only one of them will be good---the rest mediocre. I don't know where Aradhana had Thai food in Ottawa, but she must have "lucked out" on a bad place; I recommend she go to Siam Bistro on the "other" Wellington. It is, I believe, owned by an actual Thai woman, and I have never found a better Thai restaurant anywhere, and I've eaten Thai food in many cities. I think Aradhana is vegetarian? I don't know how the vegetarian situation looks in Ottawa, because I'm not.
Well thanks for posting this mandos! Much appreciated - I'm not going to debate your defensiveness of ottawan cuisine... though I might say I was once an ottawan myself! :P and well - let's just say i think TO food is by far the best in the world! It's also nicely situated to local food producing regions like niagra/peterborough - so we get good, local produce often! :)
A lot of the non-authenticity, I do believe, does make it down to the Oppressed Classes. Yes, it makes it down in the form of pre-processed industrial food---which, I might add, is not wholly without merits---but there are people in this world who wouldn't imagine that there are other tastes without the opportunity to "bastardize" cuisine.
I agree with you, there are two things going on here. 1) is knee-jerk reactionism and buying into the idea that 'culture' is static and must be 'preserved'.
Which is funny because think of how 'flat breads' and rice seem to be a staple diet of most regions in asia/central asia/eurasia. And think of what we do without the introduction of the tomato to India? I can't even imagine what half the dishes I love would be without it... Cuisine is definitely a hybridity. But I guess my comments directly pertain to capitalism as a manifestation of 'whiteness'. (i.e. white consumers and white producers). Can you fathom picking up memories of kashmir without totally laughing your ass off?
2) there is a good evidence that suggests that processed food is primarily consumed by lower-class and often POC peoples in North america. But this goes back to the fact that processed foods are cheaper and faster for lower-income people to make. But in that case, it would be better if our working days were shorter and good locally grown crops were available.
Posted by: AradhanaD | February 13, 2007 at 03:04 PM
Vegetarian options are quite limited in Ottawa - the standard vegetarian dishes at Chinese and Indian restaurants and a couple assorted vegetarian restaurants (one in Westboro is supposed to be good - "The Green Table" or something like that). There's also a decent Chinese vegetarian restaurant on Somerset, "So Good," or somesuch. Toronto, obviously, has much better selection - I'd recommend "Bo De Buyen" for Chinese and "Fresh" for everything else (the raspberry lemonade is excellent, as are the sweet potato fries and the rice bowls).
Posted by: Craig | February 13, 2007 at 07:19 PM
I went to bo de duyen once I think, it was alright - and I LOVE fresh.
A really awesome veggie Thai place in Ottawa the sacred Garden on bank (after the glebe near the mayfair theatre/dairy queen/fresh fruit market?).
Also - the wild oat is absolutely delish (but overpriced IMO). And the table is good too (their desserts are fab).
Posted by: AradhanaD | February 13, 2007 at 08:44 PM
Hmm. It must be the vegetarian issue, I suspect. I don't doubt that Toronto's vegetarian options are better than Ottawa's. It's "The Table" at Holland and the Other Wellington, and I'm told it's good, but I've never been there. There is "The Green Door"---owned by a childhood friend's parents. I don't know much about vegetarian restaurantsl, really, because it would have been impossible to bring my extremely carnivorous family to any of them, not to mention some of my friends.
Have you ever eaten at Ceylonta on Bank and Somerset? It's (for the most part) non-heavy idly-dosa Tamil food, good vegetarian choices.
I admit that I dislike the masala in masala dosa., but I love the cripsy dosas themselves. I usually order the dosas without the masala and get a side order of a meat dish and fill it with that. :) And, of course, ulunthu vadai..
Posted by: Mandos | February 14, 2007 at 12:50 PM
Been to ceylonta and the green door. No, I still think the eating in ottawa for the most part aint so grande :P
Posted by: AradhanaD | February 16, 2007 at 12:39 AM